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(Remember) Noah, when he cried (to Us) aforetime: We listened to his (prayer) and delivered him and his family from great distress. -- Sura 21:76 So the Ark floated with them on the waves (towering) like mountains, and Noah called out to his son, who had separated himself (from the rest): "O my son! embark with us, and be not with the unbelievers!" The son replied: "I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water." Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of Allah, any but those on whom He hath mercy!" And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood. -- Sura 11:42-43 One of Noah's sons dies in the Flood in contradiction to 21:76 which states that God saved him and his family. Now, this contradiction is sort of solved in the Qur'an itself, when we read on in verse 46 when God says to Noah for exactly this complaint about not saving his son that "O Noah! He is not of thy family: For his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of whch though Hast no knowledge!" And we see that this problem is solved by "divine exclusion" and even admitted to be something rather difficult to comprehend by normal human beings. So, let us accept this for the time being. But there are more problems with this story which aren't as easy to reconsile with reality. <! also see his exclusion in verse 40, but that isn't realized even by > <! by Noah himself, as we see in verse 45 > Furthermore, this whole conversation is impossible. If you ever have been at sea when the waves are towering like mountains then you know how loud it is. Conversation, even when shouting is absolutely impossible. Note, it does not say the water was already as deep as a mountain is high but calm, it specifically speaks of waves, which means that there have to be strong winds to produce these waves. And that is always very loud. Also, the Ark, a big ship was already afloat, i.e. "out on the water", while Noah's son seems during this conversation to be standing on the dry land in a distance allowing conversation (even if there were no noise around), and not swimming in the water and struggling with the waves. This is also physically impossible for nearly any normal landscape. After all this was not in a haven build for regular docking of ships. Muhammad was a son of the desert, not aquainted very well with large amounts of water as at an ocean. That might explain it.

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